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"What is it about the culture that has conditioned us to favor the wants and needs and desires, however horrible, of a serial murderer, as opposed to--most often--the women and girls that they harmed and killed?" This week, Sarah Weinman takes us on a backpacking trip through true crime history and American pop culture, and tells us about the myths and realities of criminal profiling—and why they're sometimes so hard to pull apart. And finally, we ask the ultimate taboo question: are serial killers boring? You can find Sarah's newsletter here.Articles discussed:The Case of the Fake SherlockWhat lies beneath: the secrets of France’s top serial killer expert Support You're Wrong About:Bonus Episodes on PatreonBuy cute merchWhere else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good[YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://thecrimelady.substack.com/https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/richard-walter-criminal-profiler-fraud.htmlhttps://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/nov/09/secrets-of-top-serial-killer-expert-france-stephane-bourgoinhttps://www.patreon.com/IfBooksPodhttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.comSupport the show

Here's one from our bonus vault: you sent in your stories about moments when you found yourselves changing your minds, and we listened. When do we do it? Why do we do it? What does it take? Here are some of your answers.Support You're Wrong About:Bonus Episodes on PatreonBuy cute merchWhere else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good[YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.com Support the show

Like so many other mostly imaginary topics, human trafficking is in the news again. Michael Hobbes—ever heard of him??—came by so Sarah could tell him about Sound of Freedom, a surprise hit summer movie that promises it can end child slavery, but only if you buy as many tickets as you can. Then, you can hear the episode we released on "human trafficking"—what it isn't, and what it is—back in 2019.  You can find Mike's shows here:Maintenance PhaseIf Books Could Kill Support You're Wrong About:Bonus Episodes on PatreonBuy cute merchWhere else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good[YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://www.maintenancephase.comhttps://www.patreon.com/IfBooksPodhttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.com Support the show

This week, Heather Radke brings us a tale of pageants, eugenics, and butts.You can find Heather online here.You can see Norma/Norman here. More on the Better Babies Pageants.  Support You're Wrong About:Bonus Episodes on PatreonBuy cute merchWhere else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good[YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:http://www.heatherradke.com/http://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.comSupport the show

This week, Sarah tells her favorite kind of story to American Hysteria’s Chelsey Weber-Smith: one where two girls hoaxed the world without trying very hard.You can find Chelsey + American Hysteria online here. Buy ‘Lullaby’ on Bandcamp here.  Support You're Wrong About:Bonus Episodes on PatreonBuy cute merchWhere else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good[YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://www.chelseywebersmith.com/http://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.comSupport the show

“Why don’t something happen?” Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow died in 1934, but their legend gets bigger every year. This week, Jamie Loftus brings us back to reality with a tale of prison breaks, FBI malfeasance, love, guitars, and hot dog breakfasts.You can find Jamie online here.  Support You're Wrong About:Bonus Episodes on PatreonBuy cute merchWhere else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good[YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:http://www.jamieloftus.xyz/http://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.comSupport the show

This week, we bring you a re-release from our bonus vault as Sarah tells Carolyn Kendrick about the making of Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours. We learn about the worlds of songwriting and production, how the music business has changed since the 1970’s, and of course all the interpersonal relationships that make us love to love this band. We will be back next week with a new episode. You can find Carolyn online here.  Support You're Wrong About:Bonus Episodes on PatreonBuy cute merchWhere else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good[YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://www.carolynkendrick.com/http://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.com Support the show

This week, Sports Illustrated’s Julie Kliegman volleys with Sarah about trans athlete Renée Richards’s fight for her right to play in the U.S. Open. They also dig into how the dialogue surrounding trans athletes has and hasn’t changed in the 40-plus years since. Plus, are tennis balls hollow? An investigation.You can find Julie online here.  Support You're Wrong About:Bonus Episodes on PatreonBuy cute merchWhere else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good[YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://juliekliegman.com/http://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.com Support the showSupport the show

Fly with us, lesbian seagull. This week Radiolab’s Lulu Miller brings us a story of queer nature and scientists in denial, featuring seagulls, penguins, rams, swans, dolphins, and—maybe the gayest animal of all—humans. To learn more about the seagulls, and hear much more of Lulu’s story, check out Radiolab’s amazing new episode. You can find Lulu on Twitter here.  Support You're Wrong About:Bonus Episodes on PatreonBuy cute merchWhere else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good[YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://radiolab.org/podcast/seagullshttp://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.com Support the show

“I felt that empathy like it was directed towards me, and it helped me feel like my unhappiness was enough.” On our fifth anniversary, we asked for your stories about what You’re Wrong About has meant to you. Here they are.Support us:Bonus Episodes on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merch Where else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good [YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:http://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.com Support the show

“What if you were writing a profile on someone named Janet and I was your editor, and I was like, ‘I’m sorry, for balance, find someone who wants to kill Janet’?” This week, Tuck Woodstock, host of Gender Reveal, takes us on a journey through the New York Times’ coverage of trans issues—and in the end, he points the way to a better future.You can find Tuck / Gender Reveal online here. You can find an episode transcript along with citations here. Support You're Wrong About:Bonus Episodes on PatreonBuy cute merch 100% of profit generated via Patreon and Apple Podcast Subscriptions between May 15 - May 31, 2023 will be split between the following organizations: TASSNSouthern Trans Youth Emergency ProjectKind ClinicBlack Trans Women IncGender Reveal Grant & Mutual Aid ProgramsWhere else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good [YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://www.genderpodcast.com/http://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.com Support the show

You’re Wrong About is five years old, and we want to hear your stories about the show! Listen here for details, and submit your file to bimboanniversary@gmail.comSupport the show

 In 1988, twenty-year-old American figure skater Debi Thomas headed to the Calgary Olympics to face off against East German juggernaut Katarina Witt. In the process, she became the first Black American in history to medal at a Winter Olympics. Then she disappeared from the sport. Where did she go, and who wasn’t there to catch her when she fell? This week, Leslie Gray Streeter tells Sarah about growing up watching Debi skate, where she is now, how her sport and her country failed her, and just how many people are missing from the stories we tell and the dreams we dream. You can find Leslie online here.  Debi returns to the ice Debi cover of TIMESupport us:Bonus Episodes on PatreonDonate on PaypalYou're Wrong About Spring TourBuy cute merch Where else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good [YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://lesliegraystreeter.comhttps://youtu.be/CHUI3QpYnl4https://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19880215,00.htmlhttp://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.com Support the show

This week, we fight the real enemy with Allyson McCabe. Here's where to find Allyson online here.You can find Allyson's book Why Sinéad O'Connor Matters here. Support us:Bonus Episodes on PatreonDonate on PaypalYou're Wrong About Spring TourBuy cute merch Where else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good  [YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://www.allysonmccabe.com/https://www.allysonmccabe.com/my-bookhttp://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.comSupport the show

This week, national treasure Amanda Knox talks with Sarah about what the American legal system claims to be for, what it’s actually doing, and what might be possible in the future. They entertain the most heretical ideas they can think of, which mostly seem to be about unconditional love and mercy. And at the end, Sarah’s ghost boyfriend Clarence Darrow turns up. Here's where to find Amanda:Labyrinths (podcast)Support us:Bonus Episodes on PatreonDonate on PaypalYou're Wrong About Spring TourBuy cute merch Where else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good  [YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/labyrinths-getting-lost-with-amanda-knox/id1494368441http://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.comSupport the show

This week, criminal justice correspondent Josie Duffy Rice dives into America’s obsession with prosecuting children. From 19th century houses of refuge to modern day detention centers, we comb through the tangled braids of juvenile incarceration, tough on crime fallacies, as well as criminality and its dark shadow of capitalism. Please take care while listening.  Side bars include ice cream boats, Ronald Reagan, and Leonardo DiCaprio’s dating range.Here's where to find Josie:WebsiteSubstackUnreformed: The Story of the Alabama Industrial School for Negro ChildreSupport us:Bonus Episodes on Patreon Donate on PaypalYou're Wrong About Spring Tour Buy cute merch Where else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good  [YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:http://www.josieduffyrice.com/https://theunnamed.substack.com/https://www.iheartmedia.com/press/iheartpodcasts-and-school-humans-announce-unreformed-story-alabama-industrial-school-negrohttp://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.comSupport the show

This week, survival correspondent Blair Braverman tells Sarah the story of a Supertramp. In 1996, Jon Krakauer's book Into the Wild described a young man, Chris McCandless, who changed his name, walked into the Alaskan bush, and died after mistakenly eating a toxic plant. Or did he? Now, Sarah and Blair talk about the McCandless archive and its legacy in conversations around wilderness, Alaska, violence, and more.Here's where to find Blair:WebsitePatreonTwitterSmall Game [book] Support us: Bonus Episodes on Patreon Donate on PaypalYou're Wrong About Spring Tour Buy cute merch Where else to find us: Sarah's other show, You Are Good  [YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://www.blairbraverman.com/http://patreon.com/BraverMountainhttps://twitter.com/blairbravermanhttps://www.harpercollins.com/products/small-game-blair-braverman?variant=40090251100194http://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.comSupport the show

You're Wrong About is going back on tour! We're doing a bunch of live shows in North America—me, producer and musician Carolyn Kendrick, and some fabulous guests—and we hope you come think about some stuff, and also that you laugh. Doing the four shows we did last September was the highlight of my year, nay, my post-2019 life. And just being in a room with some of the people who make this show possible means so much to me. I hope you can come! You can find all the links you need to buy tickets for each venue on this page. Tickets go on sale Friday! https://linktr.ee/ywapodAnd here are our dates and cities: Tuesday, March 21 — Detroit, MI Thursday, March 23 — Chicago, IL Saturday, March 25 — Minneapolis, MN Sunday, April 23 — Toronto, ON Tuesday, April 25 — New York, NY Thursday, April 27 — Brooklyn, NY Sunday, April 30 — Philadelphia, PA Wednesday, May 3 — Pittsburgh, PA Thursday, May 11 — Washington, DC Sunday, May 14 — Boston, MA Tuesday, May 16 — Burlington, VT Thursday, May 18 — Montreal, QC We can't wait to see you.Yours,SarahSupport the show

This week, a tale of two Shawns/Seans, their impossible dream, and the file sharing service that lived fast, died young, and helped create the internet as we know it. Plus, Metallica.Here's where to find Niko:WebsiteNewsletterTwitter Resources cited in the show introduction: The Racial Roots Behind the Term "Nappy" on NPR's Code Switchhttps://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2019/08/09/412886884/the-racial-roots-behind-the-term-nappyThe Complex History and Politicization of Black Hair in America, presented by Danielle Harvey https://kisaradio.org/podcast-feature-the-complex-history-and-politicization-of-black-hair-in-america-presented-by-danielle-harvey/Coiled by Leanne Aile https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/coiled/id1585408648"The Other N-Word" by Shalwah Evans https://www.essence.com/feature/is-nappy-negative-or-black-hair-empowerment/"How Natural Black Hair at Work Became a Civil Rights Issue" by Chanté Griffinhttps://daily.jstor.org/how-natural-black-hair-at-work-became-a-civil-rights-issue/"The Natural Hair Movement" by Kamina Wilkersonhttps://radar.auctr.edu/islandora/object/continuum:0001.008Support us:Bonus Episodes on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, You Are Good  [YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://www.nikostratis.comhttps://nikostratis.substack.comhttps://twitter.com/nikostratishttp://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.comSupport the show

In this episode, Carolyn and Sarah follow Karen from the height of her fame through her struggle to find independence, her attempts at eating disorder recovery, and finally to her death on February 4, 1983, when she was just 32 years old. Then it's time to sing a song. We extensively discuss eating disorders, disordered eating, and everything that goes with them in this episode. Please listen with care.Additional CW: At 01:21:18 we use a term that evokes suicidal imagery. It is okay to pick back up at 01:21:21. If you want to learn more, try Little Girl Blue by Randy L. Schmidt, our primary source for the information in this episode.  Little Girl Blue: The Life of Karen Carpenter - Randy L. Schmidt - Google Books Here's where to find Carolyn:WebsiteTwitterInstagram Support us:Bonus Episodes on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merch Where else to find us: Sarah's other show, You Are Good  [YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://www.carolynkendrick.com/https://twitter.com/carekendrickhttps://www.instagram.com/carolynbkendrick/http://patreon.com/yourewrongabouthttps://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodhttp://maintenancephase.comSupport the show