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Scott and Kara* dissect TikTok CEO Shou Chew’s testimony in the House as the app fends of a potential U.S. ban. And in A.I. news, Google released its chat bot, Bard, to the general public. Plus, President Trump is still a free man, the Fed has raised interest rates yet again, and Ford’s EV business is in the red. Then, a listener question about getting paid in stock.

*See what we did there?

You can listen to Kara’s interview with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman here.

For a deeper dive on the implications of the potential Trump indictment, check out Stay Tuned from friend of the show, Preet Bharara.

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