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A distraction for those of you who need it: We talk to activist and YouTuber Chella Man as well as Steven Universe creator Rebecca Sugar about what it's like to evolve in the public eye.

— Chella Man is an artist, actor, and activist, who can be seen on the DC Universe series Titans.

— Rebecca Sugar is the creator of Steven Universe.

Music in this episode by Jeremy Bloom and Boxcat Games ("Mr Fox Shop" & "Inspiration"). Theme by Alexander Overington.