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Some days you just feel depressed, and that's okay. In this episode, the very talented comedian/painter/award-winning documentary filmmaker Julian Edward Williams (@julianedwardwilliams) shares his experiences with managing his depression as well as his personal evolution from hiding and denying it to openly accepting it as part of who he is. Chao also shares his experiences with how social media has negatively affected his self esteem from going viral to being ignored by the algorithm. Follow us: @menpathypodcast