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Tuck catches up with nonbinary linguist Kirby Conrod (they/them). Topics include: 

• Are pronoun-go-arounds for cis people?
• Gender as a local social relationship 
• Neurodivergent life hacks 
• Writing a dissertation about they/them pronouns
• Plus: wizard gender! 

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