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Tuck speaks with scholar and Trans Care author Hil Malatino (he/they). Topics include:

• Why we can’t talk about gender without talking about race
• How Hil’s intersex condition—and health insurance—influenced his transition
• Why debates about labels are debates about belonging
• Trans academia and the “cannibalization” of trans scholars
• Plus: Dad-as-gender, the best little boy in the world, and the difference between genders and Gender

This Week in Gender: Dr. Rachel Levine was nominated to be the US assistant secretary of health.

Support Hil’s work by purchasing Trans Care from University of Minnesota Press and Queer Embodiment from University of Nebraska Press. There’s also an open-access copy of Trans Care available here.

Authors cited: María Lugones, C. Riley Snorton (Black on Both Sides), Susan Stryker, Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-Samarasinha (Care Work)

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