10 minutes | Jun 3, 2021

Back to normal without herd immunity

Every week for the past year, Axios has published a map of where Covid cases are rising and falling in the U.S. Today, we retire our map because cases are decreasing nationwide, and have been for a while now. But Covid isn’t disappearing. So what will this next phase of the pandemic look like?

  • Plus, the big question mark hanging over the summer Olympics.
  • And, our skeptical space reporter explains why UFOs are having a moment.


Guests: Dr. Lauren Ancel Meyers, director of the COVID-19 Modeling Consortium at the University of Texas, and Axios' Ina Fried and Miriam Kramer.

Credits: Axios Today is produced in partnership with Pushkin Industries. The team includes Niala Boodhoo, Sara Kehaulani Goo, Dan Bobkoff, Alexandra Botti, Nuria Marquez Martinez, Sabeena Singhani, Amy Pedulla, Naomi Shavin, and Alex Sugiura. Music is composed by Evan Viola. You can reach us at podcasts@axios.com.

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