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TV writer, showrunner and author Michael Jamin (King of the Hill, Just Shoot Me, Maron) joins the show to talk about finding himself when he wrote A Paper Orchestra, constantly wanting to leave LA, anxiety, feeling safe on a run during the pandemic, being too hard on his daughter, regret, notes, parenthood, lying in a meeting, show running Maron, his writing partner, voice acting and so much more. We also talk do a round of Just Me Or Everyone, take questions listeners sent in on Patreon and do a round of Podcast Pals Product Picks.

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